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  • I personally think he is. Y'know, the whole bad boy with a troubled past. But anyway, your thoughts?

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    • I think that although that, yes, the class clown or the jokester has a troubled past is used a bit, its because that happens in real life, and authors think that makes books more relatable. So while some aspects of Keefe are well-worn, he is perfectly unique once you add all his other aspects. There is no one like him, much like there is no one like the rest of the characters in the book. In addition to that, I don't really think Keefe is a bad boy. He doesn't hurt anyone, he hasn't done anything shady (besides joining the neverseen but come on), and the worst he does in school is skip class. He's more of a class clown, like stated earlier.

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    • Nothing shady but joining the Neverseen




      Yeah cuz that's a totally normal thing to do! Not shady at all to join a group of murderers who wear cloaks to conceal their identities. Totally. Normal.

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    • LittleNightmare21 wrote:
      Nothing shady but joining the Neverseen




      Yeah cuz that's a totally normal thing to do! Not shady at all to join a group of murderers who wear cloaks to conceal their identities. Totally. Normal.

      He did it to gain information. And his training there did become useful later.

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    • I'm on break, so I probably won't respond after this, I just come on to check my fanfic and stumbled upon this and wanted to chime in. I think not completely. Some parts of his character are stereotypes, yes, but almost all of the Keeper characters are at least slightly similar to a stereotype, but the majority have enough uniqueness and characterization  to be unique, including Keefe in my opinion. I won't say some parts of his character aren't a little bit of a stereotype, because they are, but honestly, if a stereotype is used effectively, it's not that bad.

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    • Rainbowpie14 wrote:
      I'm on break, so I probably won't respond after this, I just come on to check my fanfic and stumbled upon this and wanted to chime in. I think not completely. Some parts of his character are stereotypes, yes, but almost all of the Keeper characters are at least slightly similar to a stereotype, but the majority have enough uniqueness and characterization  to be unique, including Keefe in my opinion. I won't say some parts of his character aren't a little bit of a stereotype, because they are, but honestly, if a stereotype is used effectively, it's not that bad.

      I agree. Every plot, character, romance you read in a book is already out there, I don't care what you say I guarantee it. The cliche depends on how the character writes it out. Keefe was just there more in the series which is why he looks like a cliche more than the others. 

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    • It's not like you can really avoid it, but yeah. I really like the way she used the trope for Keefe, he is sort of set apart from other "I joke because I'm sad" characters, but I feel like it gets pointed out a lot which is really annoying.

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    • yeah, he is

      big time

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    • I’m the person who said I’m on break, I’m back now. I don’t have much to contribute to the conversation right now, but yeah, hello again.

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    • He kinda is....

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    • Unlike the other characters in the series, Keefe never really split from his cliche beginning. All characters will have a little cliche-ness in them, and it's up to the authors to develop them and bring them away from that path. Fitz, Biana, and Dex may have had slight cliche traits, but they grew and are definitely not cliche'd now--Sophie and Keefe are the only ones who never really strayed from the stereotype path, which is strange because they're often the ones regarded as having the "most development".

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    • I mean Sophie’s a whole different discussion by I feel like with her, she got the seeds of character development, was starting to become unique to some extent, and then that just kind of stopped? Unlocked needs a lot of character development. For all of the characters, not just certain ones.

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    • Yeah I kind of agree with that one. Although I never fully felt like Sophie developed into her own character--I mean, yes, she has a personality, but it's an overused and a bit MS one when you look at it.

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    • ^I agree. I feel like Sophie, Fitz, and Keefe's character development went downhill even though Shannon tried to add some development. Also, I feel like Shannon never sticks to one thing, at one point she tries to show how brave Sophie is, and at another point she tries to show how scared Sophie is to make her relatable and that just makes her an unclear character in my POV.

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    • Yeah, Sophie's character doesn't even seem fluid. Fitz just confuses me, because he has so many different sides to him its hard to see if he's even had a character arc yet. Keefe obviously hasn't, he literally talks about the same issues every single time he talks to Sophie. I get it, he's tramuatized, but its still annoying to have to listen to his conflicted emotions about his mom almost every other chapter. 

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    • ^Fitz does confuse me with his different sides even if some people like it. I agree with the part where you're tired of hearing about his conflicted emotions every other chapter I wish we got more Tam, Linh or anyone at this point, but no, Shannon decided that Keefe is now going to be new main/side character. 

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    • Yeah she keeps trying to use the same plot points for him. It's not that I don't like Fitz's character either, I think he has potential for a great arc, but his sides are just so different it's almost like he's bipolar. 

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    • Keepers is so full of stereo types that I am not going to even look at your reasons and assume that you are right.

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    • I think that Fitz is actually kinda a bit more cliche than Keefe. I mean, come on. Hot dude is also perfect at everything and main girl has crush on him. While some would argue that his anger management is what sets him aside from all of this, I think that that's a personality trait many authors add to the stereotyped perfect-hot-dude cliche

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    • I would more consider his perfectness one of his flaws but I see your point. Honestly they're all pretty cliche. Like we have Biana, "More than just a pretty girl", Dex "The Loner with a heart of gold", Lihns the bubbly loli but can beat you up, Tams just plain emo, etc. And of course we have Sophie, the just basic YA protagonist. But Fitz and Keefe especially because of how much they are just their stereotypes.

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