Board Thread:Short Stories and Fanfictions/@comment-71.78.233.58-20181003133414/@comment-37879183-20190104182447

EthanDaCryokinetic wrote: Is it ok if I counter that Roses? I like countering things. Thanks! I hope none of this offends anyone; I am merely countering.

1. Fitz found Sophie, which autmoatically gave them a bond. '''Yes, he found her, but what about three days later, at Foxfire? Sure, you could argue that she didn't sit with Fitz at lunch because of Biana glaring at her, but Fitz never came up to her and talked to her about it--sure, at the end he did, partially because of the "Alden and Biana" thing, but he ultimately left her, which led to Jensi and Marella and Dex being more meaningful friends in that book.'''

2. Flashback was amazing with all the Sophitz-ness. '''Meh. More like all that Sophitz-mess. Honestly, yes, they had some meaningful experiences, but all could be possibly cancelled out by the cliffhanger. And while some may argue that there's only "speculation" about bad coming from the cliffhanger, that's all a relationship needs to go awry--speculation.'''

3. Fitz says he'll get her crush cuffs, implying that he'd do anything to make her happy. '''Read below. Yes, it's implying he'd to anything SIMILAR to make her happy, but much past that? It's questionable. To be a bad match, you have to be willing to sacrifice. Remember Kesler and Juline, Brant and Jolie? They would literally do ANYTHING for each other. They would DIE for each other. And while Sophie would do that for Fitz (excuse me, Fitz's appearance plus some other scattered traits), Fitz might not do it for Sophie.'''

4. He says he'll wait until she's ready for this relationship for real. '''Yes, he's willing to wait, but...that's about it. Is he willing to be a bad match? Possibly...? That's the reason quite a lot of Sophitz shippers were worried about the cliffhanger--Fitz might not accept her. He's not willing to face scorn and leave his own perfect-ness for her.'''

5. He's the first person to call her beautiful and amazing. '''Actually, fourth. Let's count this:'''

1. Dex (Book 1) Accidentally of course, but he still does.

2. Edaline (Book 2) Sure she's her mom, but she still counts.

'''3. Keefe (Book....3, 4, 5, 6, and 7) Teases her about being amazing and "cute when she's worried" but later tells her that she's ALWAYS serious, especially when she thinks she's kidding. It's just his way of being "subtle".'''

6. He constantly comforts her.'''  You know. For half the time. Then he lashes out at her for being a separate person, having an opinion, messing up at something...all that good stuff. Oh, then he apologizes, which Sophie does AUTOMATICALLY, because she finds his face alluring. Seriously Sophie, HE HASN'T PROVEN HIMSELF.'''

Counter-counter-argument

1. He asked her later why she didn't sit with them. He wanted her to, but she didn't. If you thought someone was about to sit at your table but they sat at a different table, you probably wouldn't move tables. You'd assume they wanted to sit with the other table.

2. In Flashback, Fitz and Sophie both reveal their crushes on one another. Keefe has not revealed his crush on Sophie and Sophie has never said that she has a crush on Keefe, although some argue that it has been implied. A Sophitz date is extremely likely to happen, but a SoKeefe date will not happen unless Keefe tells Sophie that he likes her. Besides, Sophie and Fitz want to be on one another's match lists, which means that they like each other well enough to consider each other good marriage candidates.

3. Fitz has not said that he won't date her if they're a bad match. He has said that he wouldn't want to put his family through that, but he has done a lot for her. Imagine telling every embarassing secret you have to someone else. Imagine how much trust that requires. Fitz has done so much for Sophie.

4. See above reason.

5. Does he have to tell her first? He constant makes her feel better throughout the books.

6. It is true that he lashed out at the beginning of the series, but in the second half he constantly comforted her. And baking takes a ton of time, by the way. Anyways, in my opinion, Fitz has proven himself many times over.