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Hi guys it's Hihihi nia!

I have an account but I can't login right now due to laziness.

I've read some reasons why Sokeefe is a ship, and while I'm still Fitzphie, I still respect your opinions and personal thoughts. I'd just like sokeefers to see our input on the Sophie Fitz Keefe triangle.

And to fandom user, I'm going to take your format because it's really constructive and polite, and I really appreciate that.

1) Let's face it- Fitz's anger isn't great, but we can't say Keefe hasn't done that either. Take Neverseen, for example. Sophie had to hide things from Keefe and break her promise for the sake of Keefe's everyday wellbeing during a really difficult time. Keefe found out and didn't take it well. He shunned everyone and only caved with the presence of Sophie, and even sometimes, he didn't cave with Sophie nearby. This is not something the team should have to go through, and this definitely doesn't help Sophie at all. There was a reasonable reason (whoops) why Sophie has to hide it from him, and the fact that Keefe doesn't see that and shuns everyone does demonstrate anger. It was even taken on those who didn't have anything to do with whatever happened. Keefe was being unreasonable, and I think that we should face that. When Flashback wasn't released yet, I'm fairly sure Fitz only took out his anger on Sophie once- Exile. In Flashback, the reason he got angry often was due to his echo. Yet everyone kept saying how Fitz has anger issues. We need to see that Keefe isn't a guy with perfect emotional control either, so Fitz having anger issues doesn't speak to me, personally, as a reason to ship Sokeefe, however it is a valid reason why Fitz isn't good for Sophie. I guess she can go to the pockets for comfort (some other user said something about sopockets I forgot who)

So that was long, but here's a shorter version:

Fitz doesn't have emotional control so people hate fitz

Keefe also doesn't have emotional control but no one hates him

Therefore, Sophie should go to the pockets, who do have emotional control

Hihihi nia still ships Fitz because she thinks it's a good ship.

2) Shannon messenger does take fan ideas but does not take the ideas that interfere with plot/storylines. These are her books, and I remember her saying that she doens't read fan fiction because if she writes an idea, she doesn't want fans to find similarities between her work and fan fiction and say the ideas were copied. This demonstrates how she writes her own books and does not take fan preferences into her storyline. The argument that Shannon Messenger is making it Sokeefe for fans to read her book is more of a fan reason. There are actually plenty of fitzphie shippers out there, just not many have logged in to the wiki. I know plenty that ship fitzphie, just as I know many that ship Sokeefe.

Reason summary:

Shannon messenger is original and doesn't include fan ideas into her literature

People are taking the number of Sokeefe/sophitz shippers in the wiki but are excluding those outside the wiki

Therefore, Shannon messenger isn't writing for more profit

3) Cognates are development. This comes down to how much Sophie and fitz must trust each other, and lets remember the times others have said their bond was abnormally strong. This is development. This is relationship develp[ment (woops). Part of why Sophie is being pressured for her secret is because Fitz wants their cognate relationship to develop, which wasn't happening that much over nightfall. Fitz probably already knew that that was her secret, but wanted Sophie to tell him because this develops their trust even more.

4) Shannon messenger might prefer Fitzphie. She made so many of the characters ship this, and there are not many characters besides Ro who ship Sokeefe. Let's count:

Sokeefe: Ro, Keefe (2 confirmed)

Sophitz: Fitz, Biana, Sophie, Edaline, Marella, (maybe) Tam, (maybe) Linh, Grizel, and correct me if I'm wrong, I think Stina teased them about their relationship once. (6 confirmed)

So while this list isn't huge at all, out of the confirmed characters on board with some ship, Fitzphie has 3 times the amount of Sokeefe shippers. Which does point to something.

5) Fitz doesn't like to be acknowledged as "wonderboy"

In flashback, he does say that he thinks he's had it too lightly. He points to everyone whose been injured in some way: dex looked down, Sophie suffering as one of the elves, biana getting scarred by mirrors, Keefe living with a neverseen mother and abusive dad, tam and linh with equally abusive parents and sent to exillium, Wylie literally orphaned. He is humble, he says he isn't perfect and he's saying he's had it too lightly. Keep in mind this was after the aleurthrapleura whatever you spell it thing stung him in the chest. This isn't exactly light.

Running out of time, got loads more to say, but here's basically why Fitzphie is a ship/why many don't ship Sokeefe. At the end of the day, it's important to retain sportsmanship, or shall we say "shipmanship" <-- what? So I hope we can politely view each side and respect Shannon Messenger's decisions as superior to our hopes.