Board Thread:Clubs/@comment-38207171-20200207145913/@comment-68.98.145.50-20200212144355

98.114.242.209 wrote: 68.98.145.50 wrote: 98.114.242.209 wrote: That's interesting, because (I think) only Christians believe that people are born with sin. Even the clumps of cells that we call the unborn. And all that you have to do to "wash away" that sin is to believe in Jesus. Let's take other religions as a comparison, since every religion believes that their way of thinking is correct (I'm about to sound like a thirty y/o theologian, ew). Take Judaism: their "origin" of sin is identical to what Christians believe (Adam/Eve apple scandal), yet, they believe that the unborn/newborn is completely innocent and untainted. Another religion, Islam, also rejects the idea of being born sinners. They follow the quote, "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness the wicked will be upon himself” (Ezekiel 18:20). They also claim that it was God’s plan from the beginning to put Adam and Eve on earth; it was never to leave them in the garden. So now that I wrote that huge paragraph full of random facts, I wonder if I asked another religion that same question, they would give me another answer.

I sound like I know much more than I actually do. xd Well when you're first born, you probably haven't sinned yet, but immediately you can see that a baby is already sinful. He or she cries for what they want and don't stop until they get whatever that is. The older they get the worse it is.

The reason we need Jesus is because naturally we're prone to be sinful, and focused on ourselves. There's no way we can fix that about ourselves on our own, which is why we need Jesus. If we let Him, He'll take our lives and reshape them.

Jesus loves all of you! Don't think of Christianity as a boring religion that's just something that poeple do. God is real and He wants to be real for you!

NinjaTeddyBear I guess that all depends on what you define "sin" as. If you measure it in every behaviorally-bad thing that a 2-day-old does, then sure, I guess. But I don't think that's the full meaning. Sin is, according to biblical sources, something that gets in our way and separates us from God. It is that which consumes us and distracts us from the holiness and sovereignty of God. It is anything that ascends higher than God in our lives. Is crying out in discomfort because you've just been - uh - pushed out of a body and into this world a sign of distraction between the sovereignty of God? I don't think so.

If I could ask something - you believe Jesus is God, correct? You believe in something called the Holy Trinity that says that God is basically "one in three" ("Father" is the Creator of the universe, his "son" is Jesus, while the "Holy Spirit" is the idol that impregnated the Virgin Mary and put the god Jesus in her womb)? But you also pray to Jesus​​​​​​​, who's technically the son in that, while sharing God's - the father's - word. Wouldn't that technically go into a polytheism category? You could say that the three form one true God, but yet you pray to one sub-form and talk about another sub-form?

(Please tell me if I sound rude, I'm so curious with this type of stuff xd) Everyone is born with a sin nature. Even our behaviorally-bad things that we do seperate us from God because He is perfect. Lol, I'm not saying when you're first born and coming into the world that it's selfish for you to cry then. I'm talking about things like when a baby screams to be fed.

Yes, I do believe Jesus is God. It's hard to describe the Trinity. There is the Holy Spirit, the Father, and the Son. You could think of it like a three leaf clover. There are three leafs but together they make the clover. And it's not like they do a bunch of things seperately. God (like as a whole clover) created the earth.

I don't know if this is a good way to explain it, but we have different parts of ourselves that do different things. We can sing with our mouths and hold things with our hands. We can walk with our feet and smell with our noses. It's kinda like that with the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Together they're God but they have different roles.

NinjaTeddyBear