Talk:Keefe and Sophie/@comment-24.100.95.102-20181123181310/@comment-24.100.95.102-20181124035130

@wensly and @ihasgoodgrammer both have amazing points, but here's my two cents/rebuttal to @panakesblossom In The Great Gatsby, Daisy admits that she did love Tom and wasn't serious about her affair. And Daisy and Tom end up together. In Star Wars, Leia kisses Luke first, and they don't end up together either (albeit that was probably affected by the whole siblings thing). And of course there are outliers like TPB, I'm just pointing out a logical trend.

And Fitz was always the more jealous one between the two boys--making things like giftgiving into a competition, or being all over Sophie whenever others are around (constantly holding her hands or bring up the cognates things just to spite Keefe). And Fitz was openly jealous in Flashback even after the confession (making Sophie feel bad for not sitting next to him?? Really??) Keefe was the one who put Sophie's wants first by stepping aside and "letting Fitz win one thing (for now)".

Everyone know that Sophie is the most powerful Elf, and most even tell her (are we gonna ship her with Forkle... or Marella?). Everyone tried to protect Sophie. She literally has 5 constant bodyguards now. So neither of those points are unique to Fitz.

And I found the gender dynamic to be much more noticeable between Fitz and Sophie in Flashback. Sophie--the ultra powerful, independent woman--suddenly needed to be literally leaning on her strong man in battles now. She's the girlfriend calming the boyfriend's rage as he ponders murdering his brother. Or how Fitz wins over Sophie by buying her expensive jewelery while Keefe takes the approach of using his talents to paint amazing and meaningful pictures. Or that (by Sophie's own perspective) she's the weak outsider and Fitz is the strong and popular prince charming. Talk about the man having all the power.

Admittedly, Keefe's jokes and false bravado do sometimes rely on sexist tendencies, but at least Sophie doesn't feel the need to submit to him. She has so issues telling Keefe off; but she tiptoes around Fitz because of his short temper.

But, as you said, they both have flaws... I just personally believe Fitz's are more concerning.

And as Keefe said (in his short story in Nightfall), he recognizes his flaws. His constant jokes that make Sophie skeptical of his every word. Ro even told him he needed to stop playing hero. And he did, or at least is trying. After they thought Alvar had died, Sophie left Fitz and went to where Keefe was waiting. Giving her exactly what she needed from him, until she's ready for more.

'''And remember guys that this is all in good fun. I love reading the arguments and varying viewpoints, so thanks for being so thorough and respectful everyone! :D'''