Thread:Lowkey done with life/@comment-37869175-20190106215356/@comment-31805595-20190113002159

the issue is though, like you said, killing is ending someone's life. that implies that their life has already begun. but when women get abortions, the baby isn't alive yet. it's not stealing the baby's time because it's not a baby yet, just a zygote. a fertilized egg cell that may have dna but isn't yet human. if killing is ending a life, then when a woman has a baby that she can't care for, hers is the life that has ended.

and you make the point about how it was going to keep growing otherwise, right, and that shows that it should be there. but tumors grow. diseases grow. and obviously a baby is way different and way more valuable, but it can hurt a woman's body, just like a tumor or disease. it can even kill. if having a baby is going to kill the mom, is it wrong for her to get an abortion? should she let herself die, knowing what is going to happen, in order to "save" her baby? which is better, a heartbroken, depressed dad with a baby he can't care for on his own, or two people still in a happy, loving relationship who can deal with the mental struggles of abortion together? and what if having the baby will kill the mom and the baby? should the mom still have the baby, even knowing it is going to end her life? i think not.

and you mentioned a baby being scientifically alive from the moment the egg becomes fertilized, but that isn't true. legally, and scientifically, it is not considered alive, therefore it isn't murder. when an egg becomes fertilized, yes, it now has completely unique dna... but so do all the other cells in the body. it doesn't have a brain, or a heart, or blood, or nerve cells, or any of the things that make up a human (although it might have blood but i'm pretty sure it doesn't). it's just a cluster of cells. that's it. you're not killing it, because it's not alive. it doesn't have any of the characteristics that make up a human. there are ten characteristics of life (i'm not going to list them here cause that would take up way too much space haha), and a newly fertilized egg does not fulfill all of them. therefore, scientifically, it is not alive.

saying the baby isn't alive yet isn't an excuse; it's a scientific truth. and the whole metaphor you used with the safe full of a trillion dollars not being open yet? i don't think that's quite right. it's more like the safe starts out empty. there's nothing valuable in it yet, so it won't hurt anything to blow it up (unless someone gets hurt in the explosion, but we're not including that in this metaphor). as the zygote grows and develops, it becomes a baby and grows into a living thing. the safe gets filled with a trillion dollars. it becomes valuable, and suddenly, there's a reason not to blow it up.

as for the other metaphor you used, well, i have a LOT of thoughts about that, but i've already written a bunch, so i'll leave them out for now.

please let me know if i'm being rude, i'm truly not trying to be and am just passionate about this topic.:)