Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-36143053-20180726220331/@comment-39781417-20190612013221

Applebaby12 wrote: I... I honestly don't ship either of them anymore. Sophie needs to stop relying on Keefe and Fitz. I think Fitz is the better choice out of the two, since his issues are less deep rooted than Keefe's. But I honestly don't think she should end up with anyone.

I am against Sokeefe because I really don't think they're good for eachother. Keefe throws himself into danger for her multiple times, putting himself at risk both physically and mentally, and as a result Sophie is always worrying about him. And I know what some of you are thinking: "But Keefe has gotten better because during Flashback, he didn't do anything reckless!" And to that I say... changes like this don't happen like the flip of a switch. If Shannon decided that Keefe is just all of a sudden cool with everything, that is an example of very bad character building right there.

Keefe relies on Sophie way too much! Most Sokeefe shippers say, "Sophie has to be with Keefe because she's all he has and he needs her!" Which is exactly why they SHOULDN'T be together. Sophie is already a heavily flawed person, with her anxiety, lack of confidence and PTSD. If Keefe is always there reminding her about how much he needs her, she'll only get worse, not looking after herself because she's so busy looking after Keefe. And Keefe will get himself killed trying to do things to protect or help her. They're just not good for eachother.

I'm against Sophitz because Fitz is way too protective of her. Sophie will never learn to fly if Fitz keeps her cooped up in a nest. Also, his anger issues, while explainable, are problematic because if he isn't able to fix them, it could lead to an abusive relationship. "But Fitz would never hurt Sophie! He loves her!" Nobody decides to abuse and manipulate their loved ones. Most people don't even realize they're doing it. And if your anger is boiling over, sometimes you can't think straight. I've lived with people with such problems; when you're in a fit of rage, you're not thinking about how you love this person or how much they'll be hurt if you lash out at them. You're just angry, you can't feel love at that moment. All you see is red. While this paragraph may not be as long as Keefe's section, it's just as problematic. Fitz would hold Sophie back and could possibly be toxic for her, and Keefe and Sophie will just cause eachother's mental health to deteriorate over time.

Am I saying that neither of these ships should ever happen? No. If Keefe gets over his problems (and I mean actually get over them, over the span of many years and not just one book) and Sophie gets over hers, they could be compatible. Just like if Fitz becomes less clingy and gets over his anger issues, then they could be together. But these changes shouldn't happen during the books. Two years at most is not enough to fix deep rooted mental issues and personal flaws. So yes, this would mean that whoever Sophie ends up with would happen after the books are finished, which I know would be unsatisfying to many people, but it would be realistic. Wow. This is intense, but I half-agree with you. These things are all very real problems, but I do think that they're not as big as you're making them seem. But this was definetely a super good couple paragraphs and it really made me think.

Thanks!