Board Thread:Clubs/@comment-38195691-20191127162526/@comment-68.98.145.50-20200127142130

98.114.242.209 wrote: SoKeepherOfTheLostCities wrote: BlackSwanSRM wrote:

Hey, just popping in to say, I don't really have a clue what's going on in this thread, but I was just reading something about this the other day. Here's the link:

https://jewsforjesus.org/publications/issues/issues-v05-n06/the-genealogy-of-the-messiah/

The part about Joseph and Jeconiah is this:

''According to Matthew’s genealogy, Joseph had the blood of Jeconiah in his veins. He was not qualified to sit on David’s throne. He was not the heir apparent. This would also mean that no real son of Joseph would have the right to claim the throne of David. Therefore if Jesus were the real son of Joseph, he would have been disqualified from sitting on David’s throne. Neither could he claim the right to David’s throne by virtue of his adoption by Joseph, since Joseph was not the heir apparent.''

''The purpose of Matthew’s genealogy, then, is to show why Yeshua could not be king if he were really Joseph’s son. The purpose was not to show the royal line. For this reason, Matthew starts his Gospel with the genealogy, presents the Jeconiah problem, and then proceeds with the account of the virgin birth which, from Matthew’s viewpoint, is the solution to the Jeconiah problem. In summary, Matthew deduces that if Jesus were really Joseph’s son, he could not claim to sit on David’s throne because of the Jeconiah curse; but Jesus was not Joseph’s son, for he was born of the virgin Miriam (Matthew 1:18-25).''

'''Also, are you forgetting that Mary was from the line of David? '''

(Again, I've just barely skimmed this discussion, just adding what I know real quick) Interesting. So you agree that Jesus was not Joseph's birthson? Am I understanding that correctly?

As a refute, you bring up the point that Mary was David's descendant, and I half-heartedly agree. But even if Mary can trace herself back to David, that doesn't help Jesus, since tribal affiliation goes only through the father, not mother. (Numbers 1:18; Ezra 2:59). Also, even if family line could go through the mother, Mary was not from a legitimate messianic family. According to the Bible, the Messiah must be a descendant of David through his son Solomon (2-Samuel 7:14; 1-Chronicles 17:11-14, 22:9-10, 28:4-6). If we're going to go back to the abortion thing (nothing against that), can someone just quickly clear this up first? I'm not sure what's so confusing about this. Joseph was not Jesus' father. Mary had Jesus when she was a virgin through God. Both Joseph and Mary come from David's family line, so whether or not you're counting it by His mother or earthly/adoptive father He was a part of David's family line.

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