Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-146.135.19.252-20181116034422/@comment-37530514-20181121051028

Backyard Windchimes- Agreed. Hmmmmm.

So first of all, I can see Sophie doing the check in thing. I could also see Shannon being weird and making Sophie afraid to make contact with Tam bc she wouldn't want him tortured... Not sure why, but I feel like Shannon could do that. Just a feeling so that's not based on facts like my usual thoughts are though.

Okay so, here's what I think about Tam joining the Neverseen-

Well firstly, I don't understand why everyone is freaking out like "Tam joined the Neverseen!" I think it's much better to say "Tam is being held captive by the Neverseen!" Tam is not- yet- a part of the Neverseen. We should be celebrating Tam's bravery! He agreed to be held captive so that Silveny and Grayfell could live. That's extremely selfless. He knows how ruthless these people are, not to mention Gisela '''knocked him out. '''That wasn't even like when Keefe joined the Neverseen. Tam is a captive who they are hoping to recruit- NOT a member who believes in the cause.

With that said, I do understand why people are worried he could be recruited. He's going to be immersed in the Neverseen's way of thinking for a long time. There are two sides to this- First, Keefe was immersed in their way of thinking and stayed loyal. If Keefe can do it, why not Tam? But then, Tam is a totally different person with a lot less loyalty to the Black Swan specifically. And with Keefe, the Neverseen were just using him. They didn't need him. They were playing a game. They didn't even have Gisela there to tell them her son was useful. But with Tam- They need a shade. (Which I think is suspicious, by the way. Is it only because shades make good weapons? Or is a shade so important to their plan that they need one?)

Personally, I think that Tam is going to waver for sure. He has no love for the council, and he doesn't mind breaking the rules. He's bitter because of how the elves have treated him and Linh as twins. I think that gives him a lot of motivation to understand their cause. And we '''have no idea what most of the members of the Neverseen's stories are. ''' For Alvar, it's some vacker legacy. Gisela...something to do with seeing the flaws in the world, but why? And Ruy went to exilium. His motivation and backstory could be similar to Tam's. Same with Umber, she's a shade, like Tam. The history is there. And if their backstories are what caused them to join the Neverseen, and Tam has a similar one, the odds aren't looking good.

Tam.. is a complex character. He's very good at reading other people, which makes him good at keeping other people from reading him. So to be honest, there's not much to go off of when it comes to his loyalties, only rare glimpses of anger, usually when it comes to his parents and exilium. And we know that he is not entirely loyal to the blackswan, and was even reluctant to join.

In other words- I think Tam has enormous potential for turning. I just don't know what Shannon will do, because I don't know Tam well enough. But if he turned, it wouldn't surprise me.

In conclusion, I'm going to compare him again to Keefe. I was never worried about Keefe's loyalties when he went to the Neverseen. I was upset, but I never understood when people thought that he could JOIN join the Neverseen. I knew he was too angry, and didn't believe in their cause OR their method. We had just seen how upset he was that he was connected to them by the awful things his mom had done, and he always wanted to undo what she'd done. So I knew that the last thing he'd do was join for real. But for Tam, I'm worried, because I could see it going either way, while for Keefe there was no doubt in my mind. I can easily see this going either way, and I won't be surprised if Shannon chooses the darker turn.

(Gtg to bed but I'll talk about the effect Tiana could have tomorrow!!)