Thread:Lowkey done with life/@comment-37869175-20181224194711/@comment-37530514-20190108171024

Okay so, I have to go do school, but before I go I'm going to write down what I jotted down in a notebook when I was thinking about our discussion before bed last night.

- Is it possible that you were looking for answers in the wrong places? I hope this doesn't come off as rude, but do you think you could have been calling to the wrong god? Even if you were calling to the right God, could it be that the way you expected him to help is...different? See, God has three answers- "Yes", "no", and "wait". And when we call out to him and seem to have no reply, I've found that his answer is "wait". Sometimes our thinking might be flawed, and that's why we don't see answers. What we think should happen may not be what really should happen, or what can happen. And I think sometimes his "wait" isn't so much as "wait for me to answer your prayer" as it is "wait, you'll understand someday".

-It's funny, I noticed we seem to have opposite views when to comes to the complexity of each person. You seem (please PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong!!) to see it as that you aren't special, that God just sees you as another person on his earth. Meanwhile, I see it as "Wow, He loves and knows me, out of all of these people and all creation?"

See, from my perspective, when we think of it as "God's ant farm", we are putting God in a box. If he is all-powerful, and infinite, then He has the capacity to love everyone deeply and infinitely and equally. Because well, he's infinite. You could see it as that he's too powerful to notice us, but I think that's kind of a paradox- ''"He's too powerful to love us all." ''I think it would be silly to believe in a God who isn't infinite, and to me his infinity comes with that he can love us all, and does more deeply than we can ever imagine. He knows us.

-So when it comes to what you said about all the awful things in this world, I have to say, I don't know. But what I DO know is that when God created the world, it was perfect. HE DID NOT CREATE THE WORLD LIKE THIS. That is the work of humans, and of the devil. (If you'd like, I can explain what we believe about him.) God didn't mess up this world. We did. We CHOSE to. A common theme seen in the bible is that when humans want to disobey God, he lets them. He doesn't make us robots, he gives us free choice. He doesn't stop us from making mistakes, but he warns us, and he always waits for us to come back to him, extending forgiveness. Here's a story Jesus told to show this.

(The father represents God, the son is us, and the older brother represents people who think they are righteous. Remember, this was written hundreds of years ago, so if you don't understand something, ask and I can give the historical context.)

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+15%3A11-32&version=NLT

My point is, when God made the world, it was good. But when we as humans, influenced by the devil, started wanting things that we weren't meant to have and stepping outside of the perfect boundaries God set, that's when things went bad. We did it. We abuse the freedom God has given us. And that's why there are awful things in this world, because we chose to run from God. It's not that God doesn't care about us- it's that we forget and reject him.

I was just thinking, too, that sometimes we think of God as a human. We think that if God is angry about something, that's wrong, and he should always have peace. But that's not true- God isn't human, and he's never sinned. He's never done wrong. So he has the right to judge, to be angry, because he's not human. He's the only one who CAN justly judge. He's the only one who's not a hypocrite, because he's never broken his own boundaries.

The beauty is, he's perfect because he's the judge AND the judged. He's also Jesus, who is judged for us so we don't have to be.

See, God is unchanging. He can't go back on His word because of who He is, and it's beautiful. But that means that when he created the world and put it into order, his word was final. Otherwise, we could have no order. None. And I don't think we could function without order, do you? Anyway, because he's perfect, he can't neglect to finish what he started. If he did, He would cease to be himself. Because of who he is. In the bible, when he's asked what his name is, he replies "I am who I am." (Btw, I think that  is super awesome- he just IS.) Anyway, that's why we had Jesus- he loved us so much that he took the punishment for us. It's as if a father made a rule for his child, and the child purposefully broke it. Instead of going back on his word, the father takes the awful punishment for the child, so that the child can go on a trip they were looking forward to. So that the child can be happy. But he will only do so if the child tells him they are sorry, otherwise the punishment would mean nothing.

A few questions:

'''-I think the problem here is we are thinking of two different versions of God. How do you think of God?'''

-You said "I don't know what happens after death, but whether it's nothingness or a heaven and hell, but if this life is my chance I have to make it count." '''Wow, I wouldn't be able to do that. How do you "not know" and still live? See, I think the question of what happens after death is the most important question we will ever answer, because it determines the rest of our eternity. What do you think about it? '''

'''-Last one- Now, this one could come off offensively. I'm sorry if it does, truly. Pleas tell me if it does, and I won't ask questions like this again. But...It doesn't sound like you're an athiest. It sounds like you are someone who thinks God might still exist, but are a bit angry at him, and chooses not to follow him by calling yourself an athiest. It sounds like you just don't know. Am I way off?? I'd really love to hear what you think'''